Do We Really Need Trains in Bali?

6 posts  |  Started 1 year ago by Barrie  |   Latest reply from shorty  |  

  1. Barrie
    Moderator

    I was reading an article in the Bali Discovery about the proposed rail service for Bali - http://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?Id=6985

    Do we really need trains ripping up the environment. Shit, the roads do a good enough job at that. I can understand a rail service on a larger island like Java, but in little 'ol Bali.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. ripeha
    Member

    It's an interesting idea--but probably unworkable. Ideally, the majority of cargo transport could be made mandatory by rail, ridding Bali of as many scary, dirty, smoke-belching diesel trucks as possible. But then where would those truck drivers find work, which is a political issue? On the rail system, ha ha?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. shorty
    Member

    it won't work for inter island cargo. You'd have to have roll on/off terminal facilities at Banyuwangi and Gilimanuk, plus new carriage capable ferries.

    i can see great potential benefit a light rail people mover.

    Rail corridors take up far less space than roads. They're dedicated, so no competing congestion.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. shorty
    Member

    it won't work for inter island cargo. You'd have to have roll on/off terminal facilities at Banyuwangi and Gilimanuk, plus new carriage capable ferries.

    i can see great future benefit for an intra island light rail system.

    Bali is growing fast. 10 years ago there was no traffic jam at Simpang Siur. Kuta to Tanah Lot was a breeze. You could comfortably cover Bedugal, Lovina and lunch in a day trip.

    Look at the rapid villa expansion in the south, and the concomitant land price explosion. Locals can't afford it. They're forced to live miles away from employment sources.

    What will traffic be like in 10 years?

    A sobering thought. By the time the Simpang Siur tunnel and the mangrove tollway is built, traffic volumes in peak time will probably choke them.

    Compared to 4 lane highways, light rail is cheap to build. It's dedicated, so there's no competing traffic.

    Like it, lump it or hate it. Bali in the future will be an affluent, consumer society.

    Infrastructure planning has to be for this Bali.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. shorty
    Member

    Food for thought. Bali roughly equals the population and area of greater Sydney.

    Growth is probably greater.

    Imagine Sydney without the rail system.

    Fortunately our earlier governments were proactive, not reactive.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. shorty
    Member

    Food for thought. Bali roughly equals the population and area of greater Sydney.

    growth is probably greater.

    Imagine Sydney without the rail system.

    Fortunately our earlier governments were pro, not reactive.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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