Win a holiday in Bali scam

15 posts  |  Started 3 years ago by EliseDoyer  |   Latest reply from balifriend  |  

  1. EliseDoyer
    Member

    Travellers to Bali be warned - there is a scam currently operating in Bali where you get a call in your hotel from an expat english speaker (in our case an Irish lady by the name of Joyce) and are informed that your name has just been drawn as one of only three major prize winners of a family holiday in Bali. Expressions of surprise and disbelief are met with the information that this is a competition being run by Bali Tourism in order to encourage return visits to the country and names are drawn randomly from those tourists entering the country on holiday. They tell you that information (including current hotel details) comes from the entry card everyone completes on the ‘plane and which is collected for government purposes only – thus giving this scam an air of legitimacy! Once your initial disbelief has been overcome (my God, I’ve never won anything in my life, let alone a big prize!) you are then informed that you are being invited to breakfast in their hotel in Nusa Dua at which time they will make the presentation of the prize and show you the hotel you will be staying in when you come for your free holiday! They then make a time for a car and driver to collect you at your hotel. On arrival at the hotel you are asked to complete a registration form (in order to collect your prize) which also includes an agreement that you will give them 1 hour of your time to listen to their presentation(!!). You are directed to their restaurant (pretty basic!) and offered a drink and told that your host will be with you soon to take you to breakfast. Any questions seeking to clarify the fact that you are there only to pick up your major prize are met with smiles and reassurances that ‘yes, of course you have won this prize – we just have some processes to go through first!’. Our ‘host’ when he arrived was a tall, obnoxious Welshman by the name of Paul, who seemed to love the sound of his own voice (rather like Beau Tyler of ‘Big Nuts, Memphis Meltdown fame) and immediately made snap judgements about us (we’re Kiwis therefore obsessed with rugby). He took us to breakfast (extremely mediocre – the breakfast we had given up in our hotel was vastly superior) and proceeded to aggressively bombard us with words. First he told us how clever he and the company were being (they pay Indonesian Immigration officials to hand over all the contact details of tourists entering the country). Then he told us how very lucky we were to be invited there so nicely (he was very proud of the fact that he usually ‘abducts’ people off the street and more or less forces them into a van). Then he told us how little it costs the company to bring us there (about NZ$3, including transport and breakfast) and then followed this up with the fact that we should be incredibly grateful to have our holiday interrupted in order to sample this mediocre breakfast in his company. When I finally interrupted him (I was getting indigestion) and told him that we had clearly been lured here under false pretenses, that I had many things I would rather do than spend a breakfast listening to him (going to the dentist would be one!) and that this was a very precious holiday for myself and my family which he and his company had hijacked – he became extremely abusive and told me that he didn’t like my attitude, then stormed off shouting that we would be sent away without our prize!
    Anyway, the long and the short of it is that this company (Peninsula Hotels) are selling time shares (surprise!) and when we did eventually get our ‘prize’ it was a voucher for 7 nights accommodation, but with a whole lot of ‘hooks’ including that if you take it up you agree to attend another presentation!!!!!!!!

    So, if you get a phone call in your hotel telling you you have won a major prize – DON’T WASTE ANY OF YOUR PRECIOUS HOLIDAY going to claim it.

    That little voice that tells you ‘I never win prizes – this only happens to other people’ is right!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. Hippiechick
    Member

    Just another creative way to sell timeshare - give us a break!! I was approached in the street for a similar thing. It is very annoying. I was just thinking about the first timeshare approach I encountered - it was in the '80's by Harry Chew in Ubud, a wonderful, and now dearly departed, restaurant owner who touted timeshare to unsuspecting people dining at his legendary cafe. It was very low key and didn't worry me at all. However these days it is out of control and using the Bali Tourism office is just plain wrong - it gives everyone a bad name.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. westsurf
    Member

    Agreed - the approaches on the street are most annoying. In the end I find the best approach is just to be polite and explain that your "not interested".

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. slavop
    Member

    During three weeks of our stay in Bali we were the luckiest persons in the world. i guess we won 3-4 times a day and ll of the prices were major! Not even holidays, but 1000AUD, notebook and many others. What a wonderfull island.......and we woke up nd realised that you need to do and buy only the things you want because otherwise you get in the circle and keep on shopping and shopping and shopping. We hae to understand that this is probably the only possibility of the locals income and this is the reaon I always tried to be very polite and say no...nicely but strong...These people are very nice and friendly (I was really mazed because this is the way of selling in arab countries as well and I can't say the same about those people)and they won't be offended if refused:-))
    So if you want to enjoy your stay just try to larn how to ignore them and make a good mood out of they neverending smiles:-)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. Ray
    Member

    Funny to see this here, as we got a phone call just last week from Joyce, very pushy and didnt take to kindly to us saying we would call her back.

    www.balidreamtours.com

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. ripeha
    Member

    That was an interesting read.

    The sad truth of it is, in any of the major tourist areas (especially Kuta, but also at the airport), it pays NOT to even make eye contact with anybody.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. Barrie
    Moderator

    There is always a scam going on in Bali. Back in the late 80's it was being lured down an alley to buy some top-notch perfume and then getting hassled, even threatened, if you didn't give them your credit cards or card numbers. Never the cash, just credit cards.

    Thanks Elise for the detailed report.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. stevenmac
    Member

    Elise - well described. Same thing happened to us last year. We were at the end of our holiday and had a free day, so decided to take up this "Free Gift" that we were offered over the phone... I knew it was going to be a timeshare and said from the "get go" we would not be interested. We did go however and when we arrived at the Peninsula Hotel, they tried the hard sell. I was just after a drive to Nusa Dua and free breakfast - they didn't take kindly and got over their manager, I told him that even if I was interested in a timeshare, I wouldn't be interested in the Peninsula Hotel, as it was a dump.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. ladytruckie
    Member

    I too had the same thing happen to me last week in Bali. I was contacted by phone and told I had won a holiday for 7 nights at a 5 star resort.
    We were picked up by car from our hotel the next morning and given an hours presentation that was nothing more than a scam to get us to buy into a timeshare holiday.
    Luckily I trusted my judgement when the English agent asked for money upfront, today and now, and beat a hasty retreat.
    He still reassured and promised us he would still honour the "holiday" we had won but after checking it out when I returned home, his 5 star accomodation turned out to be only 3 star (probably a shack on a deserted beach).
    When we left his office, we were immediatly scamed again by young children giving out sratchy cards and telling us we had won a major prize and had to go with them asap. The children explained to us that they would get US$50 for our winning.
    We didn't fall for the scam a second time.
    Not only are these scammers scamming tourists and wasting our valuable holiday time, they are also scamming children.
    TOURISTS BEWARE!!!!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. ochervet
    Member

    Well as usual, if it's too good to be true....

    My first visit to Bali, in front a of Jayakarta some locals were trying to have me visit the hotel, claiming they would get 50USD for this and I had no obligation !!

    Kuta square has it's share of scratch card and you won a holiday scams.

    One question though, how did they get you hotel name and room number ?? They can't be calling at random ??

    Anyways, I'll be back in 5 weeks, can't wait.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. ripeha
    Member

    ochervet hit the nail on the head. My question too--how do these scammers contact you? Is your hotel selling your personal info? Or are you telling those kids in Kuta Square where you're staying?

    This has never happened to me, but I lean towards being unfriendly to unsolicited approaches by anyone....

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. sjbali
    Member

    hi ripeha..

    depend on the hotel i might agree.. but i also guessing that the arrival cards getting "switched" for some small money..

    No other explanation!

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. moving2bali
    Member

    Hi every one
    This same thing happened to my mother in the Galleria. I was off shopping and didnt realize that she was getting very involved in this "too good 2 be true" scam. As soon as I found out what it was I said a very strong "no thank you" and dragged my mum away. you see the same thing had happened to me, not in Bali but in the Gold Coast of all places. And I got very sucked in to the point of writing out a check for the deposit for a time-share apartment. Lucky there was a cooling-off period. Please please be careful.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. balifriend
    Member

    And the Scam is still going on, so many complaints.

    All I can say is I think everyone is old enough not to get scamed. My advice: If you got trapped ending up on a "free Holiday promotion" never join on that day. Try to get as much information as you can get, go back to your hotel and then maybe go back the next day for further questions, if you are still interested. You still will get the same offer.

    You have complaints, questions please visit my website: http://www.mybalitimeshare.weebly.com a new site for any kind of questions regarding timeshare in Bali and much more.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  15. balifriend
    Member

    I am getting many emails from unhappy people complaining about the presentation and selling tactics.
    That's the reason I created the website I mention above.

    Posted 2 months ago #

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